Subdued means "quiet and rather reflexive" or "soft and restrained."


The sublimity of oceans and the beauty of nature is often calming and settling for people.
Subdued means "quiet and rather reflexive" or "soft and restrained."


Chapter 24 starts out with Holden entering Mr. and Mrs. Antolini's house and ends with him leaving. Mr. Antolini was Holden's favorite teacher and we find out that Holden used to hang out with Mr. Antolini quite often when Holden left Elkton Hills. All of chapter 24 is basically Holden and Mr. Antolini, and his highball Holden constantly point out, talking about life. In some ways I feel as if throughout the whole book, Holden has been wanting to talk to somebody but the moment he gets that chance he does not want to. I also found it sort of funny how Holden failed Oral Expression class which teaches you how to speak and how if the speaker got side tract from the topic (just like Holden does) the class yells digression. We also get to see a soft side of Holden once again when he says "I like it when somebody gets excited about something. It's nice". He says this when he explains how he felt sorry for Richard Kinsella when everybody would yell digression at him. During this chapter it is obvious that Mr. Antolini knows Holden very well, for example, he states " I have a feeling that you're riding for some kind of a terrible, terrible fall. But I don't honestly know what kind". The way I interpreted it was that Holden's abyss is approaching him and that maybe Holden never really crosses back into the "known" world or at least he never crosses back into in this book. In this chapter Mr. Antolini comes across to me as a mentor, he is constantly giving Holden advice but Holden just doesn't seem to be listening. His excuse for not listening was because he had a headache, then a stomach ache, then because he was just tired but maybe Holden just didn't want to listen. At the end of the chapter Holden wakes up from the feeling of a mans hand and it turns out to be Mr. Antolini's hand stroking Holden. Holden then tells us that he has had more problems with perverts than we can imagine. Do you think Holden over exaggerated the whole scenario?
Chapter 24 starts out with Holden entering Mr. and Mrs. Antolini's house and ends with him leaving. Mr. Antolini was Holden's favorite teacher and we find out that Holden used to hang out with Mr. Antolini quite often when Holden left Elkton Hills. All of chapter 24 is basically Holden and Mr. Antolini, and his highball Holden constantly point out, talking about life. In some ways I feel as if throughout the whole book, Holden has been wanting to talk to somebody but the moment he gets that chance he does not want to. I also found it sort of funny how Holden failed Oral Expression class which teaches you how to speak and how if the speaker got side tract from the topic (just like Holden does) the class yells digression. We also get to see a soft side of Holden once again when he says "I like it when somebody gets excited about something. It's nice". He says this when he explains how he felt sorry for Richard Kinsella when everybody would yell digression at him. During this chapter it is obvious that Mr. Antolini knows Holden very well, for example, he states " I have a feeling that you're riding for some kind of a terrible, terrible fall. But I don't honestly know what kind". The way I interpreted it was that Holden's abyss is approaching him and that maybe Holden never really crosses back into the "known" world or at least he never crosses back into in this book. In this chapter Mr. Antolini comes across to me as a mentor, he is constantly giving Holden advice but Holden just doesn't seem to be listening. His excuse for not listening was because he had a headache, then a stomach ache, then because he was just tired but maybe Holden just didn't want to listen. At the end of the chapter Holden wakes up from the feeling of a mans hand and it turns out to be Mr. Antolini's hand stroking Holden. Holden then tells us that he has had more problems with perverts than we can imagine. Do you think Holden over exaggerated the whole scenario?

When Phoebe asks Holden to name one thing that he really likes, he responds by saying, “I like Allie. And I like doing what I’m doing right now. Sitting here with you, and talking, and thinking about stuff- (pg. 171).” I think that one of the reasons that Holden might treasure his memories with Allie (other than the fact that just loved Allie) is that those memories remind him of his childhood. Holden’s childhood got taken away from him when his brother died. He was forced early on to enter into the adult world and deal with the adult problem of death. Therefore, when he thinks of life with his brother, he thinks of a time where he didn’t have to deal with the darkness of the adult world and some of the harsh realities of life. Do you think that this is where Holden became so obsessed with the idea of childhood or do you think it originated somewhere else?
Later on in this chapter, Holden discusses what he wants to be when he grows up. He said that he knew it was ridiculous, but he wanted to be the catcher in the rye. “Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody’s around- nobody big, I mean- except me. And I’m standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff- I mean if they’re running and they don’t look where they’re going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That’s all I’d do all day. I’d be the catcher in the rye and all (pg.173).” I think that the reason Holden finds doing this so appealing is because he wants to save children from things that can hurt him, and in his mind, one of those things is growing up. Holden has all these problems with the adult words like dealing with phoniness and death, and he wants to save other children from suffering through that alwell. I think that the children falling off the cliff could be symbolic for children that start to become too much like adults for some traumatic even or by learning to be fake or phony. It could be metaphorical for not letting the child within each person die by falling off a cliff; he wants to preserve the child within the person. Do you think this is what J.D. Salinger’s intentions were when writing this section of the book or do you think he had a different reason for Holden wanting to be the catcher in the rye?
This is a picture of a rye field. Holden may have pictured something like this when imagining where the children would run around, and this is where he'd spend his day in his dream job.
Phoebe also tells us that Holden's song saying "If a body catch a body comin' through the rye," is based on a poem. I thought it might be interesting to read the rest of the poem. This is Robert Burns piece Comin Thro' The Rye.